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Post by merasmag on May 9, 2024 14:12:04 GMT -5
deplorable? what happened to NEHRO was DEPLORABLE if i wanted to i could probably go back and show
the breeding problems you speak of (which have nothing to do with THE TRAINER) lead to more early equine deaths than any meds by themslves
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Post by mysaladdays on May 9, 2024 13:37:44 GMT -5
maybe he is JUST that good a horseman mayb he gets his horses (they're usually boys) to perform to the best of their abilities isn't that what we want/expect? Since i am a put-the-horse-first person, all of that has to be weighed against "at what cost to the horse?" I am also more an advocate of the TB breed itself.. not the breeders. Baffert's record is deplorable in the put the horse first aspect, which is why he is having "reputation problems". My expectation is that Young Horses survive their training regimens, and also don't have shotened lifespans when they finally do leave racing as a result of their careers and/or over-the-top mating/shuttling duties. Justify's duties as a sire are already way over the top. Many opinions, mabe not good for gene pool, maybe we should put not breeding bleeders toward top, mabe breed for more durabilty, longevity, stamina, ect. Lots of diff opinions on all that. I am looking ahead, 20 to 30 years as to the fruits of our breeding program. Will we even have many races left at 1-1/4, 1-1/2, or will any horses be able to run again much after attempting such? What ever happened to this? Hes probably at 2x or 3x the suggestion www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/235617/the-jockey-club-exploring-book-size-limits
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Post by mysaladdays on May 9, 2024 13:23:38 GMT -5
Haven't heard any KD entrant commit to the Preakness. The jock was hopeful for T O Password though. Both Japanese horses are headed back to Japan. I'm going to miss them being here. The level of training excellence exhibted, given their travel, qurantine, and unfamiliarity with the track, shined through like a high-tech robust flashlight. Much respect to the connections from me.
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Post by tenfurlongs on May 9, 2024 13:13:17 GMT -5
Very busy weekend for European racing, the highlight being the French 1000 & 2000 Guineas for 3yo fillies & 3yo colts at Longchamp on Sunday. I like the somewhat literal translation of the race names (Poule d'Essai des Pouliches & Poule d'Essai des Poulains), the 'Chicken Test for Fillies' & the 'Chicken Test for Foals'. Because it makes me smile. And picture chickens running at top speed... But I digress. SundayFR- LongchampGOING: Very Soft
LON R5 (9:50am ET)- 1m Poule d'Essai des Pouliches (Group 1) (3yo Fillies) (Grande Course) (Turf) (3yo)www.racingpost.com/racecards/211/longchamp/2024-05-12/868322LON R6 (10:30amET)- 1m Poule d'Essai des Poulains (Group 1) (3yo Colts) (Grande Course) (Turf) (3yo)www.racingpost.com/racecards/211/longchamp/2024-05-12/8683233yo prep races in Ireland as well- IRE- LeopardstownGOING: YIELDING, Good to yielding in places (Cloudy) LEO R3 (9:25am ET)- 1m "Mutamakina" Stakes (Group 3) (Fillies) (3yo)www.racingpost.com/racecards/187/leopardstown/2024-05-12/867775LEO R5 (10:35am ET)- 1m2f Derby Trial Stakes (Group 3) (3yo)www.racingpost.com/racecards/187/leopardstown/2024-05-12/8677763yo Oaks & Derby Trials on Saturday in UK & IRE- SaturdayUK- Lingfield (Yes, they have a turf course in addition to the AW) GOING: Round course - GOOD, Good to soft in places; Straight course - GOOD TO SOFT, Soft in places (GoingStick: 7.2) (Mostly cloudy) LIN R3 (9:25am ET)- 1m3½f (1m3f133y) Oaks Trial Fillies' Stakes (Listed Race) (Class 1) (3yo)www.racingpost.com/racecards/31/lingfield/2024-05-11/865623LIN R4 (10:00am ET)- 1m3½f (1m3f133y) Lingfield Derby Trial Stakes (Listed Race) (Colts & Geldings) (Class 1) (3yo)www.racingpost.com/racecards/31/lingfield/2024-05-11/865622IRE- Naas
GOING: Sprint course - GOOD TO YIELDING; Round course - YIELDING (Mostly cloudy) NAA R6 (11:15am ET)- 1m2½f (1m2f84y) Irish EBF Jannah Rose Stakes (Group 3) (Fillies) (3yo)www.racingpost.com/racecards/192/naas/2024-05-11/867762Lastly a 23-runner Heritage Handicap at Ascot, the venerable Victoria Cup- UK- AscotGOING: Round course - GOOD TO SOFT, Good in places; Straight course - GOOD (GoingStick: Round 5.6, Straight 6.8) (Mostly cloudy) ASC R3 (9:40am ET)- 7f Victoria Cup (Heritage Handicap) (Class 2) (4yo+)www.racingpost.com/racecards/2/ascot/2024-05-11/865590Good luck if you play, and you should! TW
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Post by mysaladdays on May 9, 2024 13:10:30 GMT -5
I was watching interview with mcpeek and when he was saying horses don't need lasix, and seemed like he had to say it almost apologetically. Sad to see that, like the room goes quiet for a split second when that opinion is uttered. (Just like the early water,hay, oats signers had to almost hide in the shadows lest they be villanized by their fellow horsemen.)
Bleeders need lasix. Bleeders shouldnt be on the racetack though if all forms of conservative management has been applied, including time off for the mgmt and healing... and they are still chronic high level bleeders.
This is why the HK model works...not all horses are "meant" for a career in racing. Not sure why this concept is so hard to swallow in the U.S.
Forcing it is defying and denying what what is. Just like every tall person shouldnt be a basketball player.
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Post by 5wide on May 9, 2024 13:02:47 GMT -5
I don't mind the humming birds, the woodpeckers and chickens eating my mangoes and cherries are a different story.
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Post by Badactor on May 9, 2024 12:00:30 GMT -5
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Post by phlierfreak on May 9, 2024 11:55:25 GMT -5
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Post by eye123 on May 9, 2024 11:44:32 GMT -5
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Post by phlierfreak on May 9, 2024 10:57:04 GMT -5
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Post by vagrant on May 9, 2024 10:14:59 GMT -5
Fair enough.
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Post by vagrant on May 9, 2024 10:10:50 GMT -5
McPeek is wonderfully open and plainspoken about the game.
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Post by grommet on May 9, 2024 7:39:42 GMT -5
Indeed - well said, Salad Days!
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Post by 1hooper on May 9, 2024 6:27:48 GMT -5
Or you could look at it that Forever Young's fig would have won in 2021 and 2022.
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Post by spankyupinclass on May 9, 2024 4:37:39 GMT -5
this system was unusual as made a figure 8 pattern. Freaked the experts out at the Weather Channel as well itwent through Texas headed south from Dallas area hit Missouri and headed back to Oklahoma!Passud about 150 miles north os us. Crazy.
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Post by PonyGirlJCM on May 9, 2024 3:18:02 GMT -5
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Post by merasmag on May 8, 2024 22:21:22 GMT -5
any bad weather heading 2 fla?
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Post by merasmag on May 8, 2024 22:20:05 GMT -5
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Post by shoes on May 8, 2024 20:51:44 GMT -5
Tried to upload a 46 second clip from the tornado here last night but was unable too. Friend took it from a neighborhood 7 miles away, in 46 seconds 4 large trees came down.
a couple of minutes later it touched down 1-2 miles from our house.
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Post by mysaladdays on May 8, 2024 20:45:08 GMT -5
Other side of town where Garvin Woodland Botanical Gardens are got torn up ... Neighbors said you can see clear across the botanical gardens now, as all the trees surrounding it came down. NOAA says it was an EF2. (Way out past the Mall and car dealerships from what I understand, if you are familiar with the area.). Hot Springs, Garland County. Amity, etc.
Prepping for Round 2... goes to about 3am and watches are already up via NOAA for so many counties all across ARKANSAS.
But.......Looking forward to the beautiful weather we are supposed to have for rest of the week though!
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Post by 1hooper on May 8, 2024 18:53:17 GMT -5
Wish I could have seen her and Black Caviar in person.
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Post by 1hooper on May 8, 2024 18:40:59 GMT -5
McPeek this week.
“The fact that we've removed Lasix from the conversation makes it an even better test. Horses recover quicker without the Lasix. Lasix was a detriment. I know there are guys that will hear me say that and scream, 'I need Lasix.' No, you don't need Lasix. Maybe there are certain horses that do and, yes, we do have bleeders. But they shouldn't be the ones running in the Grade I, Grade II, Grade III races. The two weeks is easier without the Lasix because the Lasix would dehydrate a horse and then you'd have to recoup that fluid within the two weeks.
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Post by vagrant on May 8, 2024 18:21:02 GMT -5
… per ThoroGraph.
Does it matter? Of course not. Trophies talk, figures walk. But his fig = 4th last year.
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Post by vagrant on May 8, 2024 18:14:10 GMT -5
Trainer topspins truth on behalf of owners. Same as it ever was.
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Post by 1hooper on May 8, 2024 17:58:37 GMT -5
"Justify could have raced again. Coolmore wouldn't allow it. Clearly they made the right call because the horse prints money these days".
“Justify had some filling in his ankle, and he is just not responding quick enough for a fall campaign,” Baffert said in a WinStar Farm statement. “We all wanted to see Justify run again, but ultimately it is my responsibility to make sure he is perfect. Without 60-90 days, I can’t be definite.”
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Post by cherokeescot on May 8, 2024 17:56:45 GMT -5
Scary stuff.. Be careful out there.
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Post by shoes on May 8, 2024 16:35:07 GMT -5
keep us posted
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Post by shoes on May 8, 2024 16:31:18 GMT -5
Secretariat only faced 4 other horses in his Belmont.
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Post by merasmag on May 8, 2024 14:52:53 GMT -5
me2
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